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(Translation.) Sir,
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Inclosure 2 in No. 1.
Acting Viceroy Yang Shih Hsiang to Consul-General Hopkins.
[Undated.] I HAVE duly considered your two notes. On the occasion of your recent interview with me on the subject of the Chinese Engineering and Mining Company, you suggested that work on the Luan Chow Mine should cease for the present, and I instructed the Customs Taotai Tsai to call upon you and explain the general position.
I now have the honour to state that Taotai Chang Yen Mao was formerly in charge of the Kaiping Mine, and he only had authority to manage this particular thing. He had no authority to transfer to any other person benefits comprised in the particular thing under his control, and still less had he had authority to convey benefits which were not comprised within that thing. The change to a Limited Liability Company was never agreed to or sanctioned by our Government, who are therefore in no way bound to recognize it. My predecessor, his Excellency Yuan Shih Kai, gave frequent instructions for negotiations to be entered into, and now, if there is any method by which this case can be settled, I shall certainly submit it for the consideration of my Government.
The Luan Chow Mine, however, is quite a distinct affair.
In the dossier of the Kaiping Mine all that is placed upon record is that no one may mine within 10 li of Tongshan. Therefore, any operations outside this area, carried on in accordance with the laws of China, by official or private enterprise, have no connection whatever with Kaiping,
It is therefore impossible to accede to your suggestion to stop work for the present on the Luan Chow Mine.
Compliments.
Dear Mr. Tong,
(Card of Yang Shih Hsiang, Acting Viceroy of Chihli.)
Inclosure 3 in No. 1.
Sir J. Jordan to Tong Shon-yi.
Peking, May 4, 1908.
I HAVE seen Major Nathan, who is quite willing to enter into negotiations with the view of arriving at an amicable adjustment of the Chinese Engineering and Mining Company's case. But he thinks that the work at the new mine at Chen Chia Ling should in the meantime be suspended, and this is, in my opinion, a reasonable request.
On this condition, therefore, I shall be most happy to do what I can to promote a settlement, and I think the best course is to follow your suggestion and have an informal discussion of the various points between the parties before opening formal negotiations.
I propose to call upon you at, say, 10 o'clock on Wednesday morning, and perhaps you would then be in a position to let me know whether the above meets with your approval.
CHINA RAILWAYS.
CONFIDENTIAL.
(15839)
No. 1.
Sir J. Jordan to Sir Edward Grey,-(Received May 8.)
be 16 JUL 08 [May 8.]
SECTION 1.
(No. 95.) (Telegraphic.) P.
Peking, May 8, 1908. I HAVE the honour to report that Baron Goto has started for St. Petersburgh, passing through Mukden on the 1st instant.
The general impression prevailing here is that his visit to the Russian capital is connected with the Japanese desire to purchase the branch of the Chinese Eastern Railway running from Harbin to Kuan-ching-tzu,
It is desired by the Chinese Government that the first refusal of such purchase should be offered to them.
[2972 h-1]
Yours, &c.
(Signed)
J. N. JORDAN.
INS
Dear Sir John,
Inclosure 4 in No. 1.
Tong Shoa-yi to Sir J. Jordan.
[Undated.]
SINCE I last saw you I have not been able to see the Prince, so if you do not mind postponing your intended call to-morrow, I will let you know as soon as I can whether I will be deputed to go into the matter with you or not. As a friend to both parties, it would give me great pleasure to do what I can, but in my private opinion,
I think a member of the Wai-wu Pu should be deputed to do the work.
Yours, &c.
(Signed) TONG SHOA-YI.
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(Translation.) Sir,
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Inclosure 2 in No. 1.
Acting Viceroy Yang Shih Hsiang to Consul-General Hopkins.
[Undated.] I HAVE duly considered your two notes. On the occasion of your recent interview with me on the subject of the Chinese Engineering and Mining Company, you suggested that work on the Luan Chow Mine should cease for the present, and I instructed the Customs Taotai Tsai to call upon you and explain the general position.
I now have the honour to state that Taotai Chang Yen Mao was formerly in charge of the Kaiping Mine, and he only had authority to manage this particular thing. He had no authority to transfer to any other person benefits comprised in the particular thing under his control, and still less had he had authority to convey benefits which were not comprised within that thing. The change to a Limited Liability Company was never agreed to or sanctioned by our Government, who are therefore in no way bound to recognize it. My predecessor, his Excellency Yuan Shih Kai, gave frequent instructions for negotiations to be entered into, and now, if there is any method by which this case can be settled, I shall certainly submit it for the consideration of my Government.
The Luan Chow Mine, however, is quite a distinct affair.
In the dossier of the Kaiping Mine all that is placed upon record is that no one may mine within 10 li of Tongshan. Therefore, any operations outside this area, carried on in accordance with the laws of China, by official or private enterprise, have no connection whatever with Kaiping,
It is therefore impossible to accede to your suggestion to stop work for the present on the Luan Chow Mine.
Compliments.
Dear Mr. Tong,
(Card of Yang Shih Hsiang, Acting Viceroy of Chihli.)
Inclosure 3 in No. 1.
Sir J. Jordan to Tong Shon-yi.
Peking, May 4, 1908.
I HAVE seen Major Nathan, who is quite willing to enter into negotiations with the view of arriving at an amicable adjustment of the Chinese Engineering and Mining Company's case. But he thinks that the work at the new mine at Chen Chia Ling should in the meantime be suspended, and this is, in my opinion, a reasonable request.
On this condition, therefore, I shall be most happy to do what I can to promote a settlement, and I think the best course is to follow your suggestion and have an informal discussion of the various points between the parties before opening formal negotiations.
I propose to call upon you at, say, 10 o'clock on Wednesday morning, and perhaps you would then be in a position to let me know whether the above meets with your approval.
CHINA RAILWAYS.
CONFIDENTIAL.
(15839]
No. 1.
Sir J. Jordan to Sir Edward Grey,-(Received May 8.)
be 16 JUL 08 [May 8.]
SECTION 1.
(No. 95.) (Telegraphic.) P.
Peking, May 8, 1908. I HAVE the honour to report that Baron Goto has started for St. Petersburgh, passing through Mukden on the 1st instant.
The general impression prevailing here is that his visit to the Russian capital is connected with the Japanese desire to purchase the branch of the Chinese Eastern Railway running from Harbin to Kuan-ching-tzu,
It is desired by the Chinese Government that the first refusal of such purchase should be offered to them.
[2972 h-1]
Yours, &c.
(Signed)
J. N. JORDAN.
INS
Dear Sir John,
Inclosure 4 in No. 1.
Tong Shoa-yi to Sir J. Jordan.
[Undated.]
you do not
SINCE I last saw you I have not been able to see the Prince, so if mind postponing your intended call to-morrow, I will let you know as soon as I can whether I will be deputed to go into the matter with you or not. parties, it would give me great pleasure to do what
As a friend to both can, but in my private opinion,
I think a member of the Wai-wu Pu should be deputed to do the work.
Yours, &c.
(Signed) TONG SHOA-YI.
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